We talk about recently surviving a heart attack, working at Riot Games as an Art Director, moving to Venice Beach from Montreal, the benefits of Kung Fu, discovering Hip Hop and graffiti in the late ‘80s, working with the first Mac to start working with Adobe Illustrator, being vectorheads, feeling-based outlines, Designer Republic, partying in Belgium and getting influenced by the club scene there in the early ‘90s, skating in Ostend at a Leffinge Skatepark, trusting artists with the freedom to do what they want to do, where things are going, staying pure about graffiti elements in their work, the 30 year anniversary of 123KLAN, being 72 and rocking a double outline, being thankful for the new generation pushing boundaries, anti-style being so difficult to execute, getting settled in LA, and doing one more European Paint Tour.

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